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Just like the post your ride thread in the gadget lounge. I created this thread so sound enthusiasts and techheads can post their systems, comment on others users systems and gain information from from each other. Also I created this thread so people can steal.uuuhh I mean borrow ideas from others in regards to the room's layout, its system, speakers and furniture. I'm currently renting so I'm limited to what I can and can't do. I'll try and post some photos within the next 5 days.
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Need to borrow the camera damnit. Remember though, everyone is different, and has different views on whats good and bad. So there are no bad systems here. People are rather unfriendly in the post your ride thread. Lets keep this one above the 12 year old age bracket eh. I'm not sure if theres a thread existing but I cant find it and either could stu, so I was encouraged to renew the idea;). Here is my system so far.
It's always changing. I have a dedicated cinema room with 3 cinema recliners, another 3 on the way.I have only have had my 1080p projector a few weeks now and all i can say is WOW! Miller & Kreisel S-150 THX Ultra 7.1 speaker system (as used by George Lucas) Miller & Kreisel MX-350 THX Ultra subwoofers x 2 Rotel RSP-1098 Cinema processor Rotel RMB-1095 THX Ultra power amp (200w x 5) Rotel RB-1080 THX Ultra power amp (200w x 2) Mitsubishi HC5000 1080p Projector (full HD) Samsung BD1000 Blu-Ray Xbox360 Toshiba HD-XA1 HD-DVD Player Denon LA-23000 Laser Disc player 95' LP Morgan Galleria screen Xbox for gaming & video streaming Strong SRT-5390 PVR Ear Science custom power conditioner Philips pronto remote. My HT has been quite static for a few years now. My page is even more out of date, I gotta update it soon.
Recent changes include a OZ Theatre Screens Majestic 2.37:1 'scope screen, an 'Aussiemorphic' inspired homebuilt prism based HE lens stretches the 16:9 picture to fill the screen. No more black bars when watching cinemascope movies!! My aging Sony VPL-W400Q projector is to be replaced with the soon-to-be-released JVC DLA-HD1 D-ILA projector. This amazing unit is a full 1080p projector with a native 15000:1 contrast ratio (with no dynamic iris), I can't wait. I haven't jumped on the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray wagon yet, mainly because my current projector isn't a HD unit.
Other goodies include:- Krix Euphonix speakers (L,C,R) JBL Control (L+R surround) Whise Profunder 624 sub-bass system Yamaha DSP-A1 Yamaha P2500 800w amp (to run the Profunder 624) Yamaha CDV-W901 LD Player Samsung HD-937 DVD Player Zensonic Z500 Network Media Player Sony CDP-X222ES CD Player Sony MDS-JE520 MiniDisc Recorder Marantz SD55 Cassette Deck Yamaha TX500 AM/FM Tuner Sharp VC-ML3 VCR Samsung DSR9500AY Sat Rx for Austar and FTA Satellite Microsoft X-Box I also have four Aura bass shakers in the front row seats with their own amplifier fed with the LFE channel! Jesus, some of you guys know how to live. In our rental house at the moment I have Panasonic 68cm Flatscreen Telly. Pioneer VSX 502 Optimus mach twos [FL FR] Optimus LX 5s [RL RR] Klipsch KLF-C7 Center Samsung DTB-H550F STB Xbox (modded) Ps2 (dusty) Sony vph-1020qm Projector (CRT 35 kilos!!) 150w 10' Sub (home built) Goldstar 3D0 Albiet a dated system, certainly to you blokes. It does well for me and friends.
The projector was listed on ebay about 4 months back. Sold 'as is' because the people didn't know how to test it, I won it for $60. All I needed to buy was a BNC to RCA connector. No problems with the guns and colour, or focal issues.
However, the guns were out of alignment and jesus what a job that was to correct. I think the console has about 50 dials to adjust the guns with. Once I did that I was gobsmacked at how good it is and for 60 bucks, you cant beat that. We threw a movie under the stars night the first weekend I got it up. Few friends outside with the system set up.
I used my shed wall with a white sheet as the screen. Also, my receiver doesn't have the pre out for a subwoofer like allot of new amps do. So in order to run my sub, I simply feed the tape monitor connections to the amp. In our bedroom I have my laptop connected to an onkyo 8200 I bought for 35 bucks broken about a year ago, it powers a set of Kef Carltons that I bought for 75 at the Tender center here in Brisbane. I also have four Aura bass shakers in the front row seats with their own amplifier fed with the LFE channel! I was looking at those in Jaycar the otherday.
How well do they go, they dont produce any sound do they? Its just pure vibration? They are damn cheap and sound like a good investment.
Edit: Need to learn to type what im thinking. More accuratly at least. The insane ones don't interest me all that much (i.e. 500k+) since the equipment they are using is generally in a different league. What I tend to find interesting is the choices people make on a budget and the equipment they select. Its amazing how 2 people with the same budget can select 2 very different sounding systems and both be absolutely happy with their decision.
Some of the systems listed with the preamp(processor)/power amp combos are nice. I'd be interested to see how the rotel processor/amp would compare to something like an arcam. Ear Science custom power conditioner These are great. Obviously frequent my local store a bit:) Unless if a couple of stores in melbourne stock those conditioners. My setup is enough to make me happy and my neighbours sad. Samsung 40 Inch LA40S71BX LCD TV Hitachi CM721F 19' Monitor Yamaha HTR-5930S digital home theatre receiver Yamaha NS-P270S surround speakers Yamaha YST-100W subwoofer Nintendo Wii Sony PS2 Diamond DVD player Media Centre PC Ashton mic stands for Singstar microphones Two-seat couch in the middle with a single seater on either side Rear windows blacked out with thick black curtain As far as novel ideas go, I have a switchbox on the audio from the Wii so it can be routed through the line-in on the PC, so we can play Wii Tennis and listen to our own music at the same time.
Anyone else use a media centre PC as a mixer to combine audio sources? Mine is still definately a work in progress, progress seems to have halted though due to a lack of money for the things i really want. I cant look up any models at this time. BenQ 26' LCD TV BenQ DLP projector PE7700 120' home made screen Austar digital Pioneer reciever Pioneer DVD player cheapo 'Pro Linear' speakers (top on my upgrade wishlist) Dell SC430 HTPC (with upgraded video card, USB audio, USB terrestrial TV tuner, PCI satellite TV tuner and 1.8TB of HDD) running Mediaportal Both the projector and the TV are hooked up the same with signals from the sources split: DVI from the HTPC, Component from the DVD player and S-Video from the Austar box.
Ours is starting to undergo a revamp, it originally had a Pioneer VSX-5700S receiver (Pro-Logic only), Pioneer Laser Disc player and Pioneer tape deck all about 15 years old now. The speakers listed below haven't changed yet, but we got the dvd player a few years ago. As of this Saturday it will be: Cambridge Audio Azur 640R - New Denon DVD 3800MkII Schaub Lorenz VHD4200PHF 42' LCD - 1 month old Jamo Centre 100 centre speaker Canton Plus C powered sub Canton Plus S satellites 2x front and rear Dynaudio Image 2 bookshelves - 2 channel in other room The 640R blew us away yesterday, for music it was that much better (to us) than the price equivalent Denon and Yamaha. The NAD was a bit more than we wanted to spend and lacked some features we wanted, but it was equal/better again in sound. The next upgrade will be the centre speaker, not sure what we'll get there though.
Then maybe the sub, a SuBsonic XS-1 would be nice but it might be too big. We are looking at whether we can manage some proper front speakers in our room, as they would be much better than the Canton satellites we're using now. Also want to get an HD PVR soon too.
I am so glad this thread started. Just wondering - very soon - i will set up my home theatre and not long after a dedicated theatre room. (btw - use to werk in the video industry so movies r so kewl, anyhows).
Now, i have seen many mags about different things. I also, keep my equipment a long time - so don't like buying new stuff every now and then. (2 amps in 18 yrs) my main question is - i know wot sort of amps are out there but havent seen a 7.2 - i know DVDs arent like this yet but just wondering someone said they have a 7.1 amp and have two subs - how does this work. As i said, i have seen mags at werk with a 10.5 amp - (ok, about 10k i think but hey.) i do like overkill a bit and was wondering if anyone has two subs or more and how it werks and that. Or does anyone know if one subwoofer is ok - my old car was rebuilt by a customer and had two 12 inch subs - so i sort of know the sound level.
Thorts or comments thanx. And lastly - i know budget has some bearing - but has anyone found it's more about taste - abit about specs and some price of wots decent stuff out there. XpandeR writes. What else do i need? A realistic budget.
A end goal in mind. A working knowledge of the room you want to set it up in.
No offence, but what you really need to do is go out and start looking and auditioning screens, speakers, amps, dvd players etc etc first then come back with the questions. I might say a LCD looks better than plasma or vise versa or these speakers are good, but once you see them, listen to them might think they're shite. For example two different brands of similarly spec'd amps matched with the same speakers can sound completely different. Or to me I hate the picture on most LCD screens, others think its the ducks nuts, it is all very subjective. As smo said, we need a budget, need to know size of room etc.(otherwise we're wasting our time) questions?
WHich is the better option? Lcd, plasma or projector? Do i need a amp? If so could you recommend me one. (mid range) 3. Could you recommend me a good speaker system.
What else do i need? Answer briefly: 1.
No such thing - depends on size of room, budget and personal preference 2. Yes - what's your budget? What do you consider 'mid range' 3. Same answer as 2 above.
What do you consider 'good' 4. Speaker wire, dvd player, chairs.oh yeah and a room. Answer briefly: 1. No such thing - depends on size of room, budget and personal preference 2. Yes - what's your budget? What do you consider 'mid range' 3. Same answer as 2 above.
What do you consider 'good' 4. Speaker wire, dvd player, chairs.oh yeah and a room. Room size: 6m long by 4.5 wide Budget: -Screen: $2500 -Speakers & Amp: $1500 -DVD & others: $1000 Roughly want to spend under $5000, it is from my lounge room nothing crash hot but still something good. Let me know if you need more info. Hmm, I would be looking at building the system progressively.
That way you can get a better amp and speakers that will last you much longer and you won't outgrow the system. It will also sound much better too. Maybe the $1500 budget for amp and speakers can be for an amp and decent front speakers for now, then buy some surround speakers plus sub later when you can afford it. Good fronts will get you by without a sub quite easily for a while. Find a specialist hi-fi store in your area to listen to some different amp and speaker combinations within your budget, see what sounds best to you.
Sites like this make baby jesus cry. Whoa - I suppose you need a mansion of a house first!!! Anyway, here's my set-up (Work-in-progress) taken with crappy camera! HTPC is a P4C 3ghz (Zalman Silent Cooler) / 2gb DDR400 / Asus P4P800E Deluxe / ATI X800XTPE (Zalman Silent Cooler) / Zalman Noiseless 460w PSU / Audigy 4 / Fusion Dual HDTV PCI / Zalman HD-160 Case with MCE Remote / MS Bluetooth mouse & Keyboard / NEC XR4W 50' Plasma running 1360x768 DVI / Logitech Z-640 500w 5.1 sub and speakers / Criterion Lowboy entertainment unit. As you can see there used to be a fireplace there - but I ripped it out while on the xmas break as I'm ripping a large wall out to extend the room. Also the 2 left speakers have got the wires internal as I had no room in the roof - so need to pull some tin off when the weather cools down a bit.
Running XP MCE2005 is awesome, and it also is very god for gaming - I love getting the steering wheel out and playing GTR or rFactor in the lounge - I feel like I'm really doing it! Anyway - soon the plastering and wiring will be finished, so I'l post some pics then.
TV: Pioneer 507XDA, 50' HD plasma DVD Player/ recorder: pioneer, 250gig hdd recorder/burner Receiver: Pioneer VSX816S * 130W x 7 power * Auto MCACC * Component video switching * Preset remote with LCD display * Zone A (5.1) + Zone B (Stereo) * 3 year manufacturer's warranty * USB memory audio ready speakers: Jensen QX-65. Twin 5 ' 2 Way Centre speaker. • Hi Powered. 120 Watts RMS.
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Twin Monster 10' Subwoofer with 250 Watt RMS amplifier. • Front Controls. • Solid 25mm MDF construction. • 10 Year Warranty. 5' 2 Way BiPole Surround system.
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Oh yeah it is, compared to my sisters and brother in law's, wow what a difference, they have a SD cheapy plasma and its a huge difference. Someone i know also has a first gen plasma given to him by his dad and when i sent him a pic of mine the day i bought it he got abusive and called it my 50' piece of shit lol funny since he works in a good guys and was crapping on about his heap of junk for ages till i got that. Jealousy is a curse i guess:) Anyway if your looking for a plasma in that size and price range i highly recommend it, it also comes with a 5 year warranty as standard, which is a small peace of mind. Nice setups, all. Thanks for sharing.
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Yamaha receiver musically sounds a little bright compared to many years of superb listening with the NAD 2ch high current amp. Considered using the NAD Amp as the final stage amp for the 2 M30 main speakers, but haven't attempted it yet (not sure the benefit would be worth the hassle). Looking to update to a newer telly sometime soon. Waiting to gauge the impact of Laser TVs (supposed to be released this year) on the market.
I have some cheap JBL LX 2003 floorstanding and am wondering whether or not to throw them into the mix for rears? Ralph Waters, Aussie speaker guru, and designer/manufacturer of my Richter Merlins, once told me never to mix poorer quality speakers with good ones. In doing so, you'll bring your good speakers down to the 'lowest common denominator', as it were. Don't ruin good sound with bad. Only for economic reasons I'd say go for it, but only until such time as they can be replaced with something more suitable to match the quality of the others (I've never auditioned Krix but I believe they're excellent!). Woah, from what ive read, youve got a really good setup serpeant.
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(it gets used as a theater far more than lounge though ) The screen shot is now much better quality due to better setup and darker room. The number one thing that had to be acheived was the Wife HAD to have the cables all hidden and the room HAD to be able to be still used as a lounge. OK, equipment list. Sony Blu-Ray BDPS300 Sony MUTEKI – HTDDW1600 6.2 receiver and speakers Epsom TW-1000 HD Projector Grandview 220- cm motorised screen Total cost was just under $6k if i rememebr rightly and we are TOTALLY thrilled with the outcome. I also have a MYTHTV frontend in the room and a MYTHTV backend in my study, so I get HD tv in the theater as well as playback of all my, shall we say, ripped content.
(and i must say that i am amazed at how little 350mb divx can suck on the big screen) Oh and I now have to go and replace all my speakers with in-wall ones, wife wants them hidden more, and she has mentioned a projector lift too, so I have more work to do. Yeah, I am totally happy it the way that it is, but it is going to have to be inwall for the rears at the minimum so I doubt it will too bad. I have had inwall rears before and I didnt have an issue with it. This is system in my house and we have a 5 year old and 2 year old, so having booming massive sound isnt an option anyway.
Although we have now had a few very load reference sound checks during the daytime and I am mightly pleased with the results. Sure that might change with inwall speakers, but i can live with that for now. Yeah I am kinda interested in a 7.1 amp that has HDMI upscaling. It would be bliss to have HDMI going to the PJ and then plug in whatever you want to the amp. I am going to put an external patch panel at the amp so that playstation video camera etc can be plugged in easily. I am going to reqire the AMP by making up propper looms so that I am able to pull the AMP out of the cabinet wihtout accidentally disconnecting cables I am going to finish off the MYTHTV box so that the remote works with it and so that I can close to cabinet door again. It just goes on forever.
I recently set up my first set of home theatre toys, and am loving it on a daily basis:D My budget wasn't real huge, but I'm very happy with the output from my toys. Also as I rent there isn't a lot of things I can do with the room I have, its the downstairs of a queenslander that has been built in but not really finished off, so it has the exposed frames and studs of the walls and just a cement pad on the floor, but with some curtains and big rugs its quite comfortable. I scored a well kept Epson EMP-TW600 720p projector that had a spare lamp, which has made it behave pretty much like a new one.
For the screen, I made it myself. I call it the Mazman hehe after the man in thread on AVSforum that conceived it.:D Its a 2400 x 1200 melamine coated board with a few coats of acrylic flat clear coat to take off the sheen.
It works extremely well and was very cheap to put together. The board is quite heavy though so needs a decent mounting, but I highly recommend it for anyone that doesn't need over 100' of screen and is on a budget. The screenshots in that thread attest to the decent picture you get off of the surface. Thrown in with the projector was 3m of Dazian screen material which is nice stuff, so later on I might put together a frame for that and get a much bigger screen going. For sound I have a set of Jamo S 506 HCS 3 and a sub, attached to a Yamaha RX-361. I think I'd like to replace the centre speaker sooner rather than later, but I'm very happy with the quality of the sound from these. I have a Samsung 1080P8 upscaling DVD player as the main source and send HDMI direct to the projector.
It's not the most highly recommended of upscaling players but works well for me, and an Oppo is too hard to get at the moment.:) The only bummer I've encountered with it is that it seems picky about playing a few of my NTSC DVDs. I have heaps of DVDs and a lot of the stuff I like isn't about to be released in HD anytime soon, so a 5.1 setup optimised for DVDs suits me well. The physical set up of these components is rough as hell hehe but I'll post some pics of it once I have all my curtains up.
At the moment I'm relegated to evening viewing only as the room has heaps of windows! For a bit over 3k in total I'm really chuffed with what I was able to put together. For a dedicated cinema like that. Why would you. Remember this first post.
Remember though, everyone is different, and has different views on whats good and bad. So there are no bad systems here. People are rather unfriendly in the post your ride thread.
Lets keep this one above the 12 year old age bracket eh. Some fantastic systems you blokes have. Great ideas too. Groovy color there. I move around too much at the moment with work, but when I do get the chance to cement my feet down. Does anyone know where you can get that colored carpet that BCC use in their movie theaters? Amp rxv-2700 Fronts B&W 604s3 Rears B&W 602s3 Center LCR600s3 Sub Need a new one Throwing up between: subsonic XS1 12' Subwoofer Velodyne SPL-1200R Velodyne CHT-12 Big differance in price but i can get Velodyne at cost so see how i go.
Only read about Velodyne also and no one has them to listen to in Newcastle. Samsung Plasma ps42q htpc q6600 8800gt 4gb of ram 2tb hd space. Want a new 50 inch 1080p plasma but it can wait. Just replaced front drivers and subs blown.
Damn these toys can get expensive if u love to drive em. I will post my pics in the next couple of days, i am waiting on my new TV cabinet. MY SET UP: Dali Grand Diva's (fronts) Dali Grand Vokal (centre) Dali Suite R0.8 (surrounds) Dali Suite R0.7 (rears) SVS PCi 22-31 (cylinder subwoofer) Pre Amp (AVR Onkyo 705) Amp – Copland CVA535 (5 channel) LG 42 inch Full HD LCD PS3 – + Bluray movies:) HTPC – Good one Things i want to add in the near future:) A good 1080p projector and a decent Pre-Amp to run the Diva's.
Also waiting for HTPC HDMI sound cards to hit the market. Just like to say thanks for posting your specs and setups, it has given me a good insight into what would and wouldn't work for my space. The pics are especially good because it has shown me what the different setups would look like together.
I am still tossing up different ideas into what i really want, but after having used just a cheap epson projector for the last few weeks i think i would really enjoy having a decent projector with a quality sound system. I am kinda swaying towards plasma's as well.
Anyway thanks for all the ideas, some of the setups are really unbelievable. MY SET UP: Dali Grand Diva's (fronts) Dali Grand Vokal (centre) Dali Suite R0.8 (surrounds) Dali Suite R0.7 (rears) SVS PCi 22-31 (cylinder subwoofer) Pre Amp (AVR Onkyo 705) Amp – Copland CVA535 (5 channel) LG 42 inch Full HD LCD PS3 – + Bluray movies:) HTPC – Good one Things i want to add in the near future:) A good 1080p projector and a decent Pre-Amp to run the Diva's.
Also waiting for HTPC HDMI sound cards to hit the market. Here it is boys and girls 'drum roll'.
Pics of the ever so sweet Dali Grand Diva's. Boy these babies can sing. Awaiting all my acoustic foam, i will make some good ol wood frames with the foam for the walls, will post some pics when done. But for now here they are. The Grand Diva's were second only to the Euphonia's a couple of years back, got a great deal on some demo models, perect condition as you can see in the pics, they shine like a mirror they are so well made, the Danish really make good furniture, lol. Coupled with the Copland CVA535 5 channel monster amp, these things sound the ducks nuts.
Oh yeh the SVS Sub aint no slouch either, LOL. I've never heard the Dalis, but I'm told they're sweet. Nice gear.:) This reminds me that I've gotta figure a way of having my old NAD amp hooked up to my main speakers as well as my receiver.
Not sure if it's safe to do so, so haven't attempted it yet. I was originally thinking of using the NAD amp to drive the mains, so the Yamaha would only be acting as a pre-amp, but I haven't tried that yet either. I do miss the sound of the NAD amp for 2ch music tho.
My Yamaha receiver definitely sounds 'brighter' than I'd like. But it's all I could afford. Hi all I am a newbie and a relative novice.
I am renting and would love to have a dedicated HT room one day. Unfortunately the centre is offset at the moment (it is too muffled in the cavity underneath the TV) I like the look of the cabinet.
Curious about your centre speaker 'sounding too muffled' tho. Can U tell us why this might be?
It's a little hard to tell from the photo, but. The centre section of the cabinet under the telly. Is that sealed in the front? Surely just having the centre speaker lower to the floor wouldn't effect the way it sounds that much, would it? I ask this specifically because I'm in the process of sourcing a lowline-style entertainment unit myself, in preparation (at some point in the future) of buying a new plasma TV.
Currently, I have a full-sized centre speaker that sits on top of my 24yr-old telly, so it's pretty much at eye height, and it gives a perfect soundstage image across the front speakers (which are all Whatmoughs). When I buy a cabinet, I'll be looking at putting the centre speaker on the top shelf in the centre of the cabinet, so it will be considerably lower than it's current position. I hope it doesn't effect the sound stage image too much. Posted this in an older thread which seems to have died a natural death. Well, we're not fortunate enough to have a dedicated home theatre room. Our setup is in the living room, right next to our kitchen and meals area. It has a door to the laundry off it, and three big glass panels with a sliding door opposite the screen.
That means we have a lot of light during the day! One of the reasons I chose the Panasonic TH50-PZ700A is the anti-glare screen.
As you can see in the pictures, it really just has a matt finish, rather than gloss. So it doesn't eliminate glare entirely, just reduces it. When we close the blinds during the day it works very well. At night we have no problem at all.
I think the amount of windows means any panel — LCD or plasma — and any brand, would still show some glare during the day. In the last photo you can just see the Benno CD tower from Ikea. There's one on each side of the window. 20 x 17 x 202 cm — perfectly sized for DVDs, CDs or videos, and only $69. A bracket at the top screws into the wall to keep it stable.
My receiver is a Panasonic SC-HT17 home-theatre-in-a-box. I know folks say a higher-end system produces great results, but I've never had anything other than a 86cm CRT, so this sounds just great for me.
I ran the cable along the skirting boards and around the door frames, housed inside cable tracks from Bunnings. We never got cabling put in when building the house because back then home theatre was the province of the seriously rich and we never foresaw we would be getting it!
Putting it in now is difficult to say the least because we have a two-storey house. The DVD recorder is Panasonic DMR-EH55 with a 160 GB HDD. I connect it using component cable to the TV, and digital Toslink to the receiver. The Xbox360 is connected to the TV by HDMI (I bought one of the later models with the HDMI port) and Toslink to the receiver. Looks so much better when playing games on a 50' plasma at 1080p compared to the old CRT! Both the Xbox and the TV are supposed to upscale, but I can't see any visible difference playing DVD on the Xbox or the DVD recorder: both look excellent.
(But the Xbox is noisier.) I'm waiting to see if Sony has any good packages for the PS3 later in the year. Now the format war is over, I hope to get one and will connect using HDMI so I can watch Blu-ray movies. A lot of people here go all out on their displays but only stick with a HTIB or logitech sound systems. Ive gone the opposite way – spend around 12 – 15k on setting up sound & everything else whilst still only viewing on a 40' LCD (which really looks inadequate up against a bare 4 meter wide wall waiting for its projector lol). Yes but most people keep it as a work in progress, it is an expensive exercise. I personally think its part of the fun too!
You get the enjoyment of installing (if you chose to DIY) each part of the process as you go, and seeing/hearing how it compliments or improves on the last! A lot of people here go all out on their displays but only stick with a HTIB or logitech sound systems. I have to agree, and I've never understood this. But then, as an audiophile, sound is very important to me. Not that this is biasing my view.;) A friend and I were discussing this thread, and also the fact that flat panel TVs are extremely popular at electrical retailers, whereas the amount of sound gear they carry seems to be in general decline. He once argued that it's because 70% of the information that goes to our brains comes thru the eyes, so folks are more attracted to 'big pretty things'. I agreed that they often tend to use very colourful demonstrations for their displays (eg Finding Nemo, Cars, etc).
Whilst these facts may be so, I think it holds no water in this discussion. Try watching your screen with the sound completely off and tell me if U enjoy your experience only 30% less (and yes, I know some movies or TV shows these days might actually be improved with the sound off).
Much of the emotional experience of film is in the soundtrack. Excitement, thrill, horror, confusion, pride, sorrow. They're all there. And yet many seem to offer it so little of their budget when buying their hardware. There seems to be a prevalent attitude of 'If I can get the general idea of the sound, it's good enough'. Again, trying to think of another analogy/experiment, the best I could come up with is for U to try watching your screen with a flyscreen door in between U and the screen. If U can still see the screen, it's 'good enough', isn't it?
Obviously not. So if one doesn't want to impede the picture, why so readily impede the sound? Of course I've generalised here, and I understand the issues of cost, but there are always other options. You keep your crappy room and good equipment mean while I will enjoy excellent euipment in my accoustically treated room.
Didn't someone get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? FYI, I have crappy speakers in my lounge room, which isn't an ideal room for a HT setup, but it's all I got so I live with it.
I have crappy speakers due to budget constraints. I'll upgrade one day. I'll probly update all my HT bits over time. I'll even upgrade the room, when I move into a bigger house. To say that decent speakers are wasted on anything other than the perfect room for HT is downright idiotic.
I do believe it a waste of time to buy expensive equipment and put it in a room that has zero accoustic treatment. You are just losing out for no reason. You wont be getting the best out of them, granted. But they'll still be a lot better than what I have now.
It all depends how much money you want to spend really. I'm not the kind of guy to spend a fortune on speakers.
But if you were to spend 10 grand or something, you'd wanna have the right room for it. For a guy who is currently running Omimo speakers he bought off ebay for a few hundred bucks, I probably shouldnt be saying too much when it comes to speakers. Why am I not suprised to get that response? Wouldn't be because you bought yourself an expensive pair of speakers and have them in a crap room would it? Its because the level of people who do not know what they are talking about is very high on forums.
The fact is that if you buy good speakers and you have a crap room, you can fix the room (and the fact that good speakers will sound better than bad speakers anyway). But if you buy bad speakers and after sometime you want something more you will have to both fix your room and buy new speakers. You don't know how many people with crap speakers have bad rooms, The reason people buy bad speakers is because they think they are good, not because they know they have bad rooms.
I have (what I believe are) relatively good speakers & gear in a VERY crap room (a rectangular room with the equipment set up across the room, not along it.) I have the worst possible standing waves and, as an audiophile, it's extremely frustrating. Since I'm renting, it's not as if I can make suitable permanent adjustments, even tho I'm 'here to stay', so to speak. Last year I looked into designs for DIY bass traps, especially the corner and tube types. But I haven't started any projects yet. Given that I also don't own a car, and I live in a country area, it makes it very hard to get around to the places I need to in order to get the supplies to make them (insulation specialists, timberyards, Spotlight, Bunnings etc, which aren't close to me).
That's my excuse anyway. And I'm sticking with it.;) In the mean time, when I want to listen critically, I lean a single matress against one of the corners of the room behind my front door. Even just that alone makes a little bit of a difference, but not so much that other PPL can hear.. Far out there are some nice systems in here, a bit of a let down when you're all excited about finally getting your own haha Just got myself a 46' Samsung Series 6 (to replace my 30' Dell) and am really liking it.
Had some problems at first with the DVI to HDMI cable looking really grainy, but fixed that issue with a custom resolution where it wasn't displaying all the horizontal lines on the TV. Just wish I could run 100Hz from the computer!! First setup: New setup: Any ideas on where I can put the amp? I've resorted to putting it on the Sub which I don't really like but there's nowhere else to put it!
It and the centre speaker don't fit on the cabinet behind the TV. - Dali Concept 8 surround sound - 12' Wharfedale amp (crap waste of $500, am hanging out for the Dali Concept Sub but it's $1300 in wow sight and sound, $750 in JB HiFi which isn't in Cairns!) - Onkyo SR605 amp PC E3110@4Ghz 2 x 9800GTX's 4gig KingstonX x-fi xtremegamer (will be sold the day Auzentech release their TrueHD soundcard in September, cmooon!) Leadtek 3200H TV Tuner. G'day guys, I've been reading your forum for the last week and enjoying it.
So I thought I might plunge in and list my HT setup. The Gear:- 4 x Accusound Delta's 890 with new mundorf supreme cap crossover complete rebuilds. 1 x Accusound Delta 130 with mundorf supreme cap crossover complete rebuild.
2 x Accusound Delta 600s (factory crossovers). 2 x Sansuai sw10B subwoolfers (moded) 1 x Sony s-aw-m40 subwoolfer (moded) 1 x Sony STR-VA333ES AV Reciever. 2 x Rotel RB1080 power amps. 1 x Denon 3910 Universal player 1 x Denon 1400 Universal player 1 x Digicrystal HD set top box 1 x Infocus Screen play 5000 HT projector 1 x Longhorne 94' Fixed projector screen Accessories:- 2 x 3.1 mav power conditioners, Laovk from denmark big snake speaker cabling, XLO analog interconnects for stereo. Laovk analog big snake interconnects for multichannel.
24k gold resonnance cones under main three components My aim when tweeking and modifing my system was to recreate the best sound reproduction I could possbly afford and enjoy.I and play and love music more than movies ratio of about 70% to 30%. Here is my setup Pics- Here are the specs- Sharp LC42D83X 42' Full 1080p LCD Panasonic DMR-EX77 DVD/HDD (upscales to 1080p) Denon AVR1908 AV Receiver Energy TAKE Classic 5.1 Speaker System Xbox360 (Elite) + HD-DVD Add-on Drive Sony PS3 Nintendo Wii (not shown) Logitech Harmony 1000 Remote The PS3 and Xbox are running HDMI using the AVR1908 as the AV switcher, whilst the Pana DVD player is running HDMI direct to the TV. PS3 and Xbox both using HDMI for audio, Pana DVD player is using optical. Tranformers HD-DVD playing on the TV. One day i will get around to tidying the cables up.
MY SET UP: Dali Grand Diva's (fronts) Dali Grand Vokal (centre) Dali Suite R0.8 (surrounds) Dali Suite R0.7 (rears) SVS PCi 22-31 (cylinder subwoofer) Pre Amp (AVR Onkyo 705) Amp – Copland CVA535 (5 channel) LG 42 inch Full HD LCD PS3 – + Bluray movies:) HTPC – Good one Here is an update to my previous post which i added pics, i now have built some DIY Acoustic panels and Bass traps for the corners. The panels are 4 inch thick and the bass traps are 6 inches thick. Cutting frequencies down hugely and making so much of a difference to the quality of the sound stage and curbing harsh sounds from reflections coming from the walls. My basic setup. Not as nice as some but I'm a young guy who lives in a rental share house with two other young blokes so as you can imagine I don't want to have the worlds best gear if its going to get trashed.
- Samsung R series 40' LCD - Onkyo TX-SR605 - JVC Misc DVD player - NAD 5320 CD player - Xbox 360 - HTPC; Sempron, 2gb, 60gb, Gigabyte HDMI mobo, onboard digital sound, misc old case. A lot of people here go all out on their displays but only stick with a HTIB or logitech sound systems. They spend 3k on a display and less than $1k on audio. I have always thought that you should probably spend more on the audio than the display because displays are so cheap today.
Audio makes a huge difference to movies and concerts and I would allocate at least twice the picture budget on a decent surround sound system. - Sub: No sub as yet, tbh the system is pretty good in our small lounge without, but might get something at some point, any suggestions on the lower side of $500? You might want to consider a couple of DSE 10' subs. Way under $500. I had one with 4x DM110s in my small PC room and it was a pretty good match.
I still have the sub but I've upgraded speakers. Buddy if i had B&W speakers and NAD equipment (which i do) at your age i would be laughing!! Haha well they are actually inherited from my folks and are both over 20yrs old. I've also got a NAD stereo amp that I use on an off in the bedroom.
Despite there age all components perform well! You might want to consider a couple of DSE 10' subs. Way under $500. I had one with 4x DM110s in my small PC room and it was a pretty good match. I still have the sub but I've upgraded speakers.
I've read the 10' is a bit laggy and the 8' is a better option, I don't supposed you've had any exposure to the 8' at all? This is my setup. Niiiiiccceee:) ('Cept I HATE silver components.:P ) How does the panel go on that centre speaker. Plenty of room for it? Does it vibrate at all? That Epicentrix is a beast of a centre speaker.
I was thinking the same thing, actually. I know at any fair volume that my speakers have vibration that can be felt by contact. I've been looking at entertainment units in preparation for me buying a 42' plasma telly, and I've been specifically looking at units that'll accommodate a 'full-sized' centre speaker on the first shelf (my Whatmough M5 is a bit smaller than the Krix Epicentrix), mostly so I won't have to place the telly on top of the speaker.
I would have thought that the vibration from the speaker would eventually cause some issue with the telly.? How does the panel go on that centre speaker. Plenty of room for it? Does it vibrate at all?
That Epicentrix is a beast of a centre speaker. I rang up Krix before I bought the Epicentrix. They said that the Epicentrix was made to place a plama/LCD on top of. I think they rated it's loading to something rediculous – like 150kg or something. I was worried about vibrating the plasma tv too and was prepared to wall mount it once I got the area gyprocked. However I havent notice even the slightest twitch from the plasma, even when I have cranked it!
My set up Wish I could use a screen like that.:) I hope I'm not 'jumping the gun', as it were (if you're still setting your system up?). But if I could offer a small suggestion regarding your centre speaker placement.
Get your centre speaker as high as U can underneath that screen, either by using a wall mount, or by placing it on a tall, sturdy object. In your current situation, having the centre speaker on the floor would probably be ruining any realism created by panning of sound across the front channels, not to mention it sounding unnatural when voices are coming from very low down near the floor, and actor's faces are high on the wall.;) Give it a whirl and see what U think.:). Yeah, they're tubelights (like the first pic you posted)I just expanded their name so other people might get a better idea of what they are.
I got a set of 8 of them on ebay for under $300.although I haven't seen them listed that cheap again. As for interfering with viewing.the simplest answer is no. They just create an ambient glow on the wall. If anything, they help enhance the atmosphere of the room, because I can change their colour to match the movie's theme. (ie xmen = blue, matrix = green etc). Kenwood 5.1 system How are you liking the Kenwoods?
I have the same set, but everyone on the forums has recommended against them and seems to think they arent very good. I thought they were the best in my price range, and refused to listen to anything out of my price range;) Also how do you use a digital set top box as a signal booster? When/if I get a new LCD I will have a Strong SD STB gathering dust.
Here is my 'ht' setup Its from the post your 360 setup page. Im looking to add in a LCD/Plasma to the at home setup that has the kenwoods. But havent decided as yet, and since Im sick today I dont think its a good idea to run the risk of getting caught looking around at TV's.
How are you liking the Kenwoods? I have the same set, but everyone on the forums has recommended against them and seems to think they arent very good. I find them a bit thin-sounding, and don't generally go very loud but they're infinitely better than my crappy DSE system that I was using before (see the pic with the lights). There really isn't much else in their price range, I got my set for $400.the only real competitor is a yamaha set around $150-180 more. So I'm happy with it.
Also how do you use a digital set top box as a signal booster? When/if I get a new LCD I will have a Strong SD STB gathering dust. It's a cheap MTV one from coles I think. For some reason they built it with a signal booster in it and, well since my local tv signal is about as strong as a Prius pulling a caravan I thought I'd may and well use it to boost the signal to my tv's internal tuner.
Ended up coughing up over 30 odd grand for the whole home theatre setup crazy really! Lol wouldn't call paying 30 odd grand 'coughing up'.
Will post mine in the near future, still in VCE as well, once it's done i'm gonna set everything up. System so far: JBL full northridge series panasonic pt ax100e projector Onkyo tx-sr604 Can't remember what inch screen. Either 90+ or 100+. Gonna put all of this in a tiny room about 5-7m x 5-7m. Lol yea call me crazy.
Better than what it's doing now, which is sitting in a room collecting dust, not set up and untouched for 5 months (had it installed in my previous home, moved and cbs installing anything). Might sell the projector and get a tv though. Mine at the moment.
Most (90%) recording studios in the mid 80's to mid 90's used these JBL 43xx series as mixdown monitors, most live bands used JBL PA stacks, and most good nightclub venues used JBL as well. It is a very dynamic live sound that I like and to me it sounds great. Others will not agree as some people like things like Wharfdales etc that are mellow and muddy.
And others like all the flavours between. They are also good on movies. And if you want an good sound effect explosions etc then the Sub1500's are rated at 750W each, driven by 800W, and are pretty good down to 10Hz;-). I heard that studio speakers aint so good for theatre and music play back as they are not so detailed – probably heard that from audiophiles. Not sure about recent times but certainly when these speakers were around most movie theaters used JBL stacks like this behind their screens. Very similar drivers.
I would say one problem with these are they are too detailed. If I understand what 'detailed' means in speakers. You do pick up annoying faults in CD mixes with these especially the more recent studio works. I am certainly not an audiophile. No turntable, no class A amps, no all-passive crossovers, no bizzillion dollar interconnects. It is just a kick back to the sound I loved in the 80's (and earlier when I used to sound mix bands and build amps & speakers). Not everyones cup of tea and that is fine as we all have very different sound preferences.
Also a setup like this is totally stupid for most lounge rooms as wives would be yelling; 'You want to put that where??!?!?!!?' Someone needs to make his next investment a home entertainment unit! I think I have learned to never say never. Earlier this year I completely rewired this whole rack and cable-tied everything as that was it.
No more changes. Not buying anything else. Then it came to pass that my Ziova Z500 player does not play the new H.264 (Nero Digital etc) videos and darn that is what I wanted to use as my standard for DVD rips.
So I upgraded to a new Ziova CS615 (errrr still having problems so that my be swapped out for a Popcorn Hour). I also had the first foxtel box (not IQ) and went to the recent melb home show and saw the HD iQ2. Hi Everybody, I have a post in this thread back on the first page, 24th Jan 2007.
Things have changed a little bit since then. I mentioned in the original post about wanting to get a JVC DLA-HD1 projector. Well, by the time it came to upgrade, I changed my mind and bought a Sony VPL-WV60 from pricejapan.com, for about half the Australian RRP. The Sony also has the vertical stretch for a 2.37:1 cinemascope lens built in. I would have had to purchase an external scalar to do this with the DLA-HD1. The old Yamaha DSP-A1 amplifier has been replaced with an Integra DTR-8.8 receiver, and I bought a Toshiba HD-XE1 HD-DVD player when they were going cheap at the start of the year.
For BluRay, I'm leaning toward the Panasonic BD-30, mainly for the availability of a region free mod for both BD and DVD. My main page is still un-changed since July 2004, but I've added some operational pictures of my OZ Theatre Screens 2.37:1 screen here:- Bear in mind that these images are from the old Sony VPL-W400Q 480i projector.
The VPL-VW60 provides a far better picture. You can see some pictures of the VPL-VW60 here:- The first two images are of the new(ish) Integra DTR-8.8 sitting nicely in the rack. You can also see a Sherbourn C12 fan unit that I have sitting on top of the DTR-8.8 to keep it cool. Most Integra/Onkyo receivers run incredibly hot, even when doing nothing. The C12 keeps everything at a nice temperature by extracting hot air away from the top of the receiver.
You have too much dust in your room. Yeah I think my camera lens must have been covered in dust. How much thise fronts set you back? They look awesome! Just doing a quick sum of the bits and I think about $5,000. Got all the drivers for 'reasonable' prices in the USA and Germany but then slugged for shipping.
The four 15' cost USD$75 each to ship. I have a friend in the chippies trade so he got the wood cheaper for me. Took me about 6 months to put them together so add in the heaps of labour.
The cost of JBL bits in OZ is high. I got my 2235H woofers for USD$200 each in USA, never used since reconed. Just one recone kit from Jands here costs $380, add basket cost and labour for the recone. Hey Micheal, what A/L's are you using. I can't view your pics, grrr.
I've got the ISCOIII which will be hooked up to the Sim C3X 1080p, once my theatre is finally built! Internode had a major system meltdown this morning, email, web hosting, etc. Hopefully, real soon now, everything will be up and going again. Mmm, ISCOIII, I sure would like one of those. I've priced a Schneider CineDigitar 1.33, and been looking at the cheaper Horizon lens which I hope will be available soon. For the moment, I'm sticking with my prism based lens.
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An AVR usually has the amp onboard, not seperate.Unless you are thinking of a processor then that adds another dimension. Oh, I thought it was possible to 'pass through' the fronts to one amp, for full power, and the rest through the AVR (on some models, of course)? Why not keep your marantz and just buy a cheapo AVR receiver.Great for all those PSX evenings.
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Unfortunately Linux VST only but still maybe of interest to some of you. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:08:03 +0200 Atte wrote: > On 08:01 PM, Kaza Kore wrote: > Pretty impressive, basically the 'new' renoise 3.0 instrument inside a > plugin + sequencer + renoise native effects + more It looks much like it needs to be controller by an external keyboard controller, of the type that has many knobs and sliders and all that. I use Renoise so I'm not sure yet if there's a need for Redux. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list.
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:22:29 +0200 Atte wrote: > On 02:35 AM, wrote: > > > I use Renoise so I'm not sure yet if there's a need for Redux. > > I think it would make all your renoise instruments + renoise native > effects available in say ardour. Might be useful:-) Pardon me for the following naive question: In which way? I mean, from my Flintstone point of view, I sync Renoise and Ardour using jack, then I record tracks in Ardour (various instruments, could be accoustic guitar, bass, hardware synths, etc.), and I do stuff in Renoise. When done (if ever!) I record the Renoise output in Ardour. And variations thereof.
I'm all for discovering new, possibly creative, workflows, hence my question. If you do not mind.
_______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. > On 12:55 AM, wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:22:29 +0200 >> Atte wrote: >>> I think it would make all your renoise instruments + renoise native >>> effects available in say ardour.
Might be useful:-) >> >> Pardon me for the following naive question: >> In which way? > > It's a vst instrument. > > I think if you have that in mind and watch the video, you'll get the idea: > > > > Caveat: I haven't tried redux:-) > > -- > Atte > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. > On 12:55 AM, wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:22:29 +0200 > > Atte wrote: > >> I think it would make all your renoise instruments + renoise native > >> effects available in say ardour. Might be useful:-) > > > > Pardon me for the following naive question: > > In which way? > > It's a vst instrument.
> > I think if you have that in mind and watch the video, you'll get the > idea: > Yes, I saw this some time ago. Everyone knows how to work with vst. Actually, I will try the airwave interface with Angelina vst synth and this will be a first. Is it like using zynsubaddfx? A MIDI keyboard plays zyn, then zyn's output is recorded as an Ardour track. Same with a vst synth (I know redux is more, but for the sake of establishing a base comparison)?
I know, if I'm not mistaken, that vst plugins in Renoise (I don t use any) enables Renoise to add its effects to it. Whereas it is not possible, obviously, with a hardware synth sequenced in Renoise.
So that's basically it: I read the blurb but I'm not getting it in a practical day-to-day way. What would you do with Redux, in which way would you creatively use it, incorporate it in your workflows? _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. On 09:13 PM, wrote: > So that's basically it: I read the blurb but I'm not getting it in > a practical day-to-day way. What would you do with Redux, in which way > would you creatively use it, incorporate it in your workflows? A vst(i) is an instrument that shows up inside your host. Some of the advantages, compared to working with two programs, say ardour and renoise, would be: 1) it's easier to restore the session, just open your project in your host, and all 'connections', levels, effects, automations, loading of sounds are taken care of.
2) tighter integration, for instance you can easily render your finished project in one go, exporting everything in one wav 3) at a logical level, everything gets to be the same, be it vst plugin a, vst plugin b or ladspa plugin c. You just grab what you need for the sound you want.
It's not really clear to me which host you're most familiar with, but you should just get a few plugins running in that and play around to get a feel for it. Cheers -- Atte _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. On 19:11, Paul Davis wrote: > Some people it more convenient to have instruments as plugins inside a > DAW rather than external applications. That's all that is being > discussed. > I think that that stems from the need/wish to be able to easily recall a 'full setup' for a piece.
Which I know probably leads to 'session management' discussions. Essentially I think that if people were able to one-click load DAW + Sequencer + (their instrument setup) regardless of the fact it is a single application or not, that need would be fulfilled. The advantage of the non-single-application approach is obviously modularity as well as a certain degree of portability. Personally the does-it-all-daw-sequencer-whatnot paradigm which got so popular at beginning of 2000s was one of the aspects which drew me to Linux where I could have a sequencer which was a sequencer, a DAW which was a DAW, etc.
And 'cable' up everything through JACK My two cents. > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Atte wrote: >> On 12:55 AM, wrote: >>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:22:29 +0200 >>> Atte wrote: >>>> I think it would make all your renoise instruments + renoise native >>>> effects available in say ardour. Might be useful:-) >>> >>> Pardon me for the following naive question: >>> In which way?
>> >> It's a vst instrument. >> >> I think if you have that in mind and watch the video, you'll get the idea: >> >> >> >> Caveat: I haven't tried redux:-) >> >> -- >> Atte >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. > > > On 19:11, Paul Davis wrote: > > Some people it more convenient to have instruments as plugins inside a > > DAW rather than external applications. That's all that is being > > discussed. > > > > I think that that stems from the need/wish to be able to easily recall a > 'full setup' for a piece. Which I know probably leads to 'session > management' discussions.
> > Essentially I think that if people were able to one-click load DAW + > Sequencer + (their instrument setup) regardless of the fact it is a > single application or not, that need would be fulfilled. > The advantage of the non-single-application approach is obviously > modularity as well as a certain degree of portability. > > Personally the does-it-all-daw-sequencer-whatnot paradigm which got so > popular at beginning of 2000s was one of the aspects which drew me to > Linux where I could have a sequencer which was a sequencer, a DAW which > was a DAW, etc.
And 'cable' up everything through JACK > > My two cents. Following on from that, I find the (short) ritual I have when firing up seems to settle me into the right frame of mind for creative work. I hit the 'big switch' and stuff sequentially powers up. Once the desktop is there (qjackctl set and running) I click on an icon to pull up Yoshimi, which auto-connects main L&R audio mains. I click on another icon for Rosegarden, which is configured to find Yoshimi and the hardware synths. It will also find Hydrogen and Qsynth if they are running, but I don't use those very often.
This could be further automated of course, but I like it that way. -- Will J Godfrey Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list.
> I think that that stems from the need/wish to be able to easily recall > a 'full setup' for a piece. Which I know probably leads to 'session > management' discussions. > > Essentially I think that if people were able to one-click load DAW + > Sequencer + (their instrument setup) regardless of the fact it is a > single application or not, that need would be fulfilled.
The advantage > of the non-single-application approach is obviously modularity as well > as a certain degree of portability. > > Personally the does-it-all-daw-sequencer-whatnot paradigm which got so > popular at beginning of 2000s was one of the aspects which drew me to > Linux where I could have a sequencer which was a sequencer, a DAW > which was a DAW, etc. And 'cable' up everything through JACK I agree. I have never had the expectation that the DAW runs my entire studio by itself, or that it 'swallow' all the other programs. Session recall would be nice, but then that's something Unix/X11 has been dreaming of in general for over twenty years, even outside the world of audio apps. I don't think anyone has ever gotten perfect application state recall right on any platform (too much cooperation needed from all developers and all apps).
I guess because of that, I've never fully expected session recall capability to fully happen, and I'm not disappointed that it hasn't. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list.
> > > On 19:11, Paul Davis wrote: > > Some people it more convenient to have instruments as plugins inside a > > DAW rather than external applications. That's all that is being > > discussed.
> > > > I think that that stems from the need/wish to be able to easily recall a > 'full setup' for a piece. Which I know probably leads to 'session > management' discussions. > > Essentially I think that if people were able to one-click load DAW + > Sequencer + (their instrument setup) regardless of the fact it is a > single application or not, that need would be fulfilled. > The advantage of the non-single-application approach is obviously > modularity as well as a certain degree of portability. > > Personally the does-it-all-daw-sequencer-whatnot paradigm which got so > popular at beginning of 2000s was one of the aspects which drew me to > Linux where I could have a sequencer which was a sequencer, a DAW which > was a DAW, etc. And 'cable' up everything through JACK > > My two cents.
Following on from that, I find the (short) ritual I have when firing up seems to settle me into the right frame of mind for creative work. I hit the 'big switch' and stuff sequentially powers up. Once the desktop is there (qjackctl set and running) I click on an icon to pull up Yoshimi, which auto-connects main L&R audio mains. I click on another icon for Rosegarden, which is configured to find Yoshimi and the hardware synths. It will also find Hydrogen and Qsynth if they are running, but I don't use those very often. This could be further automated of course, but I like it that way. -- Will J Godfrey Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:28:39 +0100 Will Godfrey wrote: > Following on from that, I find the (short) ritual I have when firing > up seems to settle me into the right frame of mind for creative work. I tend to forget chords, setups and stuff, especially if it's kind of improvised, or tracks done on the spur of the moment.
For instance, after some hours working on something I stumble on a riff. Then quickly I brew up some tracks, beats, melody. Recorded in Ardour and then put aside. 2 months later when I 'discover' the tracks and find that there's something good there, well, the chords, melodies and all are forgotten.
I can bring them back, but it's extra work. Now I make it a point to write down all notes, at least.
I pop up emacs and write tunings, notes (musical and info), tablatures. If I've quickly sampled a percussion and played it in a strange note I explain why. And then put it away. In Ardour I might have an empty Renoise track to make me think that hey, there's some Renoise stuff that goes along with this.
So from this point of view, I wouldn't mind bringing up the Ardour tracks and everything else would also start configured - much like the Calf, or any other, plugins, for instance. It would be 'perhaps' nice if Ardour would have space to write text session notes. It's fine with emacs, though. My two cents.
_______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list. On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 17:46:05 -0400 Paul Davis wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:02 PM, > wrote: > >alf, or any other, plugins, for instance. > > > > It would be 'perhaps' nice if Ardour would have space to write text > > session notes. It's fine with emacs, though.
> > there's a button at the bottom of every mixer strip that opens a > simple text editing window for you to write per-track notes. Yes, although I mentioned 'session notes'. I guess the strip for master could be considered as such. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list.
Renoise is a tracker-style DAW that's always had its admirers, but users of other DAWs may well have decided that its unconventional approach to music production isn't really for them. However, the arrival of Renoise Redux means that there's now a best-of-both-worlds solution: this takes the Sampler and Phrase Editor from Renoise and puts them in a VST/AU plugin for Windows, OS X and Linux.
The Renoise developers say that you can think of Redux is an expressive sample-based instrument that has a tightly integrated sequencer. You can create sounds from scratch (most audio formats are said to be supported), there's per-note polyphonic modulation, and you also get a large selection of effects. Find out more below and in the teaser video above. Is available now from the Renoise website priced at €58/$65. You can also download a demo. Renoise Redux features Instrument + Sampler With its full-featured MIDI implementation, Redux is an expressive sample-based instrument. Check out the bundled presets to experience the diversity and range of sounds you can achieve with Redux.
Sequencer The sequencer in Redux is closely integrated with the instrument, and used to create musical phrases. These phrases are controlled via notes and program-change events, and allow you to alter the playback in a variety of ways. Open-ended Create sounds from scratch with the built-in sample recorder and draw tool. Or import existing files by simple drag and drop. Redux understands most common audio file-formats, including the.sfz multi-sample format. Tracker Notation Redux has inherited and expanded upon a rich set of features from its big brother, Renoise, including techniques to trigger notes and control sample playback with surgical precision.
Sample Modulation Redux offers true per-note polyphonic modulation, which can be used to transform your material into anything from a short stab to a lush ambient soundscape. Dozens of DSP FX With a large selection of DSP effects and a quasi-modular system that allows devices to modulate one another, the sound design possibilities of Redux are almost endless. Macro Controls Redux features a straightforward automation system with eight globally accessible macro controls.
Each of these macros can be connected to any number of parameters and functions under the hood. Keyboard Driven A tracker typically make use of numerous keyboard shortcuts and commands. Redux features an innovative on-screen keyboard to help unlock these secrets and provide visual feedback. Waveform Editor Any good sampler should have a waveform editor and Redux is no different.
Use it to adjust volume levels, cut leading or trailing silence, apply effects, chop samples into slices. And much more. Presets everywhere Almost every section of Redux can save and recall its particular settings. This includes phrases, (multi-) samples, modulation sets, individual effects or full chains. And, of course, the instrument as a whole.
Cross-platform Redux is available for Windows, OSX and Linux, in VST and AudioUnit formats. Your license does not restrict you to any particular platform and is fully portable.